Remington continues to offer factory ammo, and its 200-grain factory load has a muzzle velocity of 2675 f.p.s., while the 250-grain loads muzzle velocity is 2400 f.p.s. The .25 Rem., .30 Rem. Richard Mann Be sure to hit that Subscribe button in your podcast player! Id be hunting deer with my father the following season, and that alone was a dream come true. Access the newest seasons of MeatEater, save content, and join in discussions with the Crew and others in the MeatEater community. Winchester introduced the .351 WSL in 1907 for their Model Most commercially available loads for the .351 SL launched a 180 grain .351 caliber bullet at between 1,850 and 1,925 fps from a 20-inch barrel, yielding identical muzzle energy to the .30-30 when fired from a 20-inch barrel (rather than a manufacturer's long test barrel). Introduced only two years apart, the .223 Remington and the .243 Winchester couldnt have come from more different neighborhoods of the firearms world. "Winchester Model 07 Self-Loading .351 Caliber: Its Past and Its Future with Modern Brass, Bullets and Powders" (2011) Speckin, Leonard pp 68-70, "Winchester Model 07 Self-Loading .351 Caliber: Its Past and Its Future with Modern Brass, Bullets and Powders" (2011) Speckin, Leonard pp 88-96, Last edited on 25 February 2023, at 22:24, ".351 Winchester Self-Loading (.351 WSL, .351 SL)", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.351_Winchester_Self-Loading&oldid=1141606901, This page was last edited on 25 February 2023, at 22:24. Additionally, I recorded an entire podcast episode on this exact subject. Its cheap, easy to shoot, and most importantly, effective on whitetail in close quarters. was introduced in 1955. Using a 180 grain JSP bullet, Lyman data shows a starting In particular, the .35 Remington offers a marked advantage over the .30-30 Winchester when hunting very large, tough, and/or dangerous game like moose and grizzly bear. Comparing the two in spite of the weight difference, youll see the 350 obtaining 2100 fps at the muzzle, and the .35 Remington cruising along at 2080 fps; not a whole lot of difference, though Id have to give the edge to the .35 Remington for a bit more sectional density with the slightly heavier bullet. Instead, it was first chambered in Remington's Model 8 auto-loading rifle. The 2019 SHOT Show saw the release of the latest cartridge from Winchester: the 350 Legend. usually costs closer to $45 for a box. The 600 Magnum suffered from a barrel that was too short at 18 inches. Seller: GUNNER308 . The elder statesman of the deer woods, the .30-30 Win. of energy. Winchester model 1907 in .351 winchester. For a while Savage chambered it in the Model 99, and I am still looking for one I can afford. Both cartridges are eminently shootable. Using the same case head diameter of the .223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a .357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. Remington marketed the cartridgeas a superior alternative to another extremely popular cartridge that excelled under those same circumstances: the venerable .30-30 Winchester. Campfire Ranger. As much as its a .30/30 vs. .35 thing, it might be just as much an East vs. West, thing. Lyman mold #350319. The .358 Norma Mag. that bullet is 19.5 grains for a MV of 1904 fps. This ammunition is often loaded to lower velocities in consideration of older firearms which have not been properly maintained, and large differences are seen over the chronograph relative to vintage .351 SL ammunition. That list, by the way, is in ascending order of power. Reloading Handbook, IMR 4227 proved to be the best overall powder for the .351 WSL. Driving a 160-grain jacketed bullet to a velocity of just over 2300 fps, it represented a fantastic hunting cartridge for its time. Mag. Both come in light, handy rifles that are a pleasure to carry in the forested mountains and wooded areas where these guns shine. offered the performance level of the .358 Win. Lets take a look at the two champions of the deer woods, and perhaps finish the conversation started three-plus decades ago. Winchester introduced the .351 SL in the Winchester Model 1907 self-loading rifle as a replacement for the Winchester Model 1905 and the .35 SL. Enter the 350 Legend. Modern reloaders will have trouble finding .351 WSL brass Few hunters these days really understand the capabilities of the . and a 250-grain Partition load with a muzzle velocity of 2550 f.p.s. Sure, we experiment a bit with other bore sizes, but in the end it always comes back to the .30 caliber. However, the biggest shortcoming in the cartridge is limited effective range. With a 200-grain bullet at 2460 f.p.s., it is a heavy-hitter on whitetails. Mag. A very small number of Winchesters legendary bolt-action pre-64 Model 70 rifles were manufactured in .35 Remington as well. At 400 yds., the .358 Norma impacts 3.1 inches lower than the .300 Win. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. 1.380" long that uses small rifle primers. would follow that tradition. Ruger briefly chambered the M77 rifle in .35 Whelen. Bottles & 12-oz. Norma offers factory ammunition, E.R. Its flatter trajectory helps hunters reach across the open country, and I doubt theres a real ranch west of the big river that doesnt have a .30/30 lever-gun behind the kitchen door, if not behind the truck seat. vs. .300 WSM.223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington. its all about money. Now, in this comparison, I will freely admit that the .35 Remington is not legal for those areas for which the 350 Legend was designed, as the .35 Remington is a bottle-necked cartridge, but there has been quite a bit of rumbling among those hunters who appreciate the short to mid-range cartridges, about whether or not the switch to the new cartridge is worthwhile. The best answer to the question might be to just get one of each. Winchester sold both soft point and FMJ ammunition for the .351 SL cartridge over the years. the higher pressure and back thrust of more powerful cartridges, so the .351 Self-Loading cartridge was designed for the existing in a rimmed cartridge that would work in a lever-action rifle. Henry Repeating Arms currently manufactures a model in .35 Remington as well. Not unlike the real estate market, the answer lies in location, location, location. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. .35 Remington This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. Additionally, the .35 Remington will perform adequately on larger game such as elk, grizzly bear, brown bear and moose. Today the .35 caliber family, at least in North America, includes the .357 Magnum, .35 Remington, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. Fusion Ammo has a 200-grain with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. as a way to boost the power of the Model 94 lever-action rifle. It never has been and never will be a good long range cartridge, but if anything,modern loadings using high quality bullets have further improved the performance of the .35 Remington on big game at short to moderate range. Long and short if it is under 150 yards there's very little difference in killing power between the 35 Rem and 308 Win. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. produced 109 results. Developed in the days before ballistic coefficient was a talking point at gun counters, these cartridges tend to use wide, stubby bullets that cant maintain velocity at extended ranges. Published Mar 19, 2021 3:00 PM EDT. In 1953, the cartridge found its home in Marlins 336 lever-action, but it also was favored by many who hunted big game with single-shot pistols like the Contender. Buffalo Bore also produces 220gr loads that they claim reach a velocity of 2,200 feet per second (2,364 foot pounds). Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. Especially when used in handy, quick pointing rifles such as the Marlin 336, the .35 Remington really comes into its own when used in thick cover. An experimental Thompson submachine gun was also made to fire .351 SL in 1919 but was never produced commercially. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. Naturally, this resulted in performance compromises and the can only be had in Federals traditional, lead-core Power-Shok line. If youre hoping to save your wallet rather than your shoulder, the .30-30 is the way to go. We sell ammunition by the box and bulk ammo in case quantities. Soon after, the classic 150- and 170-grain loads took root, and due to the tubular magazines of so many popular rifles, round nose bullets were employed. Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. solidly in the deer- and black bear-sized game camp. On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. Well played Winchester; we all need to work together. On Wednesday, the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) sent a notice of intent to sue to the U.S. Forest Service (USFS) for alleged violations of the Endangered Species Act (ESA), due to the hunting of gray wolves in Wyomings Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest. .30-30 Win. The 243 Winchester has a longer overall length and uses a longer case length than the 223 Remington. Even the 200-grain LEVERevolution .35 Remington load retains 1711 foot-pounds of energy at 100 yards. The .351 Winchester SL cartridge had but one loading, a 180-gr. Winchester offered .351 WSL factory loads loaded with 180 If we compare the .300 Win. The .35 Remingtons story is a bit different. Commonly known as the Model 07, the Model 1907 rifle was also popular for law enforcement use. was designed for the American market, but sadly no American riflemaker ever chambered the cartridge in a cataloged gun. Younger hunters seem fixated on shooting further. Remington loads a 200-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2775 f.p.s. Those cartridges fly farther, but if your hunting ground only allows for shots within 100 yards, why put your shoulder through more pain than necessary? Federals Power Shok, for example, pushes a 200-grain bullet 2,080 fps. Mag. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. From the Green Goblin (a bolt-action rifle I built on a Remington action), both will produce groups that are sub-minute-of-angle. The .35 Remington uses the 180- and 200-grain .358caliber bullets, and while light-for-caliber, they are effective at the ranges a .35 Remington is used, which is usually inside of 150 yards. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Reloading Centerfire Ammunition: Tips For Getting Started, Shooting and Loading the 6.8x43 mm Rem. Main Image: 3035-5: Marlins model 336 is one of the few rifles available in both .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. Mag. vs. .300 Win. Since it had no competitor at the time, and since it filled an important medium bore niche, the .35 Remington quickly caught on with hunters in the United States. If youre looking for a new deer or black bear rifle, both cartridges are worth consideration. If youd like to read a more detailed discussion on a couple of other .35 caliber cartridges, read the articles below: 338 Federal vs 308 Winchester vs 358 Winchester: What You Need To Know. Outside that area, I feel that the sheer number of rifles chambered for the .35 Remington will assure a steady supply of good ammunition, fulfilling the role the .35 was designed for. I would also expect it to handle anything in North America from deer to the big bears. Which Shoots More Flatly? Mag. LEVERevolution bullets, unlike most bullets with pointed tips, are also safe to use in rifles that have tubular magazines (like the Marlin 336). If zeroed at 200 yards, their 160-grain FTX .30/30 Winchester load will drop 12 inches at 300 yards. I have a 35 Remington and a 35 whelen and they are good hunting for big game. 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Chiefly because of the handy Winchester '07 carbine, the Of the four rifle cartridges introduced with the Remington Model 8, the .35 Remington was by far the most popular and is the only one still in production. Thats a question I just dont understand. or the .35 Remington Instead, it was first chambered in Remingtons Model 8 auto-loading rifle. That guns modern military counterpart, the 5.56 NATO, has been in continuous use by militaries around the world since the early 1960s. It was predictable that the .356 Win. The most popular cartridges for hunting and even target shooting begin and end with the thirties. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. Ballistics vs. .35 Rem. and .351" JSP bullets. The only rifles I can find in production are from Nosler, Remington and CVA. The most common load is a 200gr round nose soft point traveling between 2,000 and 2,100 feet per second. If I were a Midwest hunter, Id dive on top of the 350 Legend, as it gives what I consider to be the most bang for the buck. Contrary to what Gen Z shooters might think, traditionally styled lever-action rifles are not just relics or a way to get your cowboy fix. is a wonderful cartridge, but nobody buys them. | On those gray, moody November days when I am feeling blue I take my Remington Model 141 pump-action rifle in .35 Rem. Mag. .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards.358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum.22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift.270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM.26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.458 Win. In the years since, the .35 Rem. We offer rifle ammo in a number of calibers including 223 REMINGTON, 30 CARBINE, 300 WIN MAG, 307 WIN, 308 WIN, 375 WINCHESTER, 5.45 X 39MM, 7X64MM and more. In a modern bolt-action rifle, hand loaders can achieve velocities of 2,400 fps with a 200-grain bullet, making the .35 Rem. Its strength is a straight wall allowing use in certain states for big game. Savage Arms has announced the newest model in its series of straight-pull rifles, the Impulse Driven Hunter. I give the edge to the apparently timeless .30-30 Winchester for the availability alone; there are dozens of factory loads to choose from, and being .30-caliber is never a bad thing. The result was the .350 Legend. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. The .35 Remington's story is a bit different. value, so you might see a bit more drop and lower velocity at 200 yards, but inside of 150 yards, I highly doubt youd note much of a difference. For comparison, a .270 Winchester produces about 17 ft.-lbs. Federal, for example, offers 12 varieties of the .30-30, including loads in their excellent Trophy Copper and HammerDown series. load of 17.0 grains of IMR 4227 for a MV of 1400 fps. A failed product is often said to be ahead of its time, which is usually just a polite way of saying nobody wanted to buy it. The longevity of both cartridges speaks to their efficacy on game, and their compatibility with short, light carbines makes them popular among hunters in thick brush. This combination offers an affordable, hard-hitting rig which is capable of taking most common game animals, albeit at short range. Among the .35 caliber cartridges popular in the United States, the .358 offered a definite step up in performance; the .35 Remingtonthat popular woods rifleis much slower than the .358, and though the .35 Whelen has been among us since 1922, it would remain a wildcat until 1988. Even when using the standard factory loads, the .35 Remington is an outstanding round for use on medium sized game such as whitetail deer, feral hogs, and black bear at short ranges. The .35 Winchester (colloquially .35 Win) cartridge was created in 1903 by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company for use in the Winchester Model 1895 lever-action rifle, and was also available in the bolt action Remington-Lee, [1] or the Model E-10 Factory Sporter Ross Rifle in Canada. Many now consider the .35SL inadequate as a deer round, but it may still be suitable . Hornadys LEVERevolution pushes the performance up a notch with a 200-grain pointed bullet at 2225 f.p.s. Accuracy was always regarded as fair at best from Model 07 carbines. As many hunters know, the Remington Model 600 carbine, which was introduced in 1964, was one of the first short, light, bolt-action rifles to find success with deer hunters. No matter if its books, art or hunting cartridges, its only those with a deep understanding of the subject who can fully understand the greatness often buried in obscurity. gunswizard. Mag. The 350 Legend has a 180-grain Power Point load, though no 200-grain load as the .35 Remington does. A main strength of the 35 Remington not shown in the ballistics tables is its energy transfer shock power (35 caliber and 200 grain bullet). That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. Still, much like the old man who can rattle your teeth with a punch, appearances can be deceiving. in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. Calling and shooting predators is one of the things that helps hunters get from the end of the fall seasons to when the turkeys start gobbling. I have used the .35 Whelen on critters from bobcats to moose. It has accounted for almost all, if not all, North American game species, and the famous African PH Wally Johnson used one to kill lions in his early years in Mozambique. Karl Brauneis, Forester, Lander, Wyoming, Also shooting a 35 Remington from a model 600 Remington bolt action rifle and very seldom ever hear Mag. with bullets between 200 grains and 220 grains. The ability to smack the snot out of big game animals like black bear and wily old whitetail bucks is what really matters. All rights reserved. The 223 Remington has an overall length of 2.26 and uses a 1.76 long case. Savage Arms has announced the newest model in its series of straight-pull rifles, the Impulse Driven Hunter. Mag. to achieve its potential. Ill bet its been awhile since those cartridges have been seen in a hunting camp. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. 351 Winchester Self-Loading Ammunition for Sale. But it offers only 100fps more with a 200 gr. projectiles, and by designing 350 Legend to. If the .35 Rem. Its simply a matter of velocity and ballistic coefficient; the 30-30 pushes the lighter and more aerodynamic 30-caliber bullet faster so it has a flatter trajectory. By I double lunged a buck with a 225gr. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. value, so you might see a bit more drop and lower velocity at 200 yards, but inside of 150 yards, I highly doubt you'd note much of a difference. The ammunition situation is a little better than the rifles. G. Joined: Feb 2010. Because of its power and versatility, many generations of hunters from states as varied as Maine, North Carolina, Texas, and Georgia have successfully hunted deer, moose, bear, and hogs (like the one in the photo below) with the .35 Remington. In its day, the .351 was used for short range deer hunting, but today it is considered marginal for the purpose. Its just about perfect for the deer woods, and you can easily teach a youngster the art of shooting an iron-sighted lever rifle without punishing recoil. is still with us as well. So, which one comes out on top in a head-to-head matchup? The 35 Remington also uses a bullet about 18% heavier and with over 35% more frontal surface area (.1007 vs .0745 square inches). Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. As a matter of fact, that may have been the first campfire cartridge argument I was privy to; if only those gentlemen wouldve realized the fire theyd kindled. 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