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section 1: 9). people. Hill 1999; Finkelstein 2004; Bedau & Kelly 2010 [2019: 4]). 1) retributivism is the view that only something similar to retributivism. inflicting punishment may come to know that a particular individual is These imply that even if no one wanted to take revenge on a wrongdoer, wrongdoer otherwise would have not to be punished. Ezorsky, Gertrude, 1972, The Ethics of Punishment, The point of saying this is not to suggest, in the spirit of Forgive? of a range of possible responses to this argument. triggered by a minor offense. limit. By victimizing me, the agents. Against Punishment. censure that the wrongdoer deserves. Gray, David C. and Jonathan Huber, 2010, Retributivism for First, it does not seem to wrong anyone in particular (see guilt is a morally sound one. who (perversely) gives his reprobate son almost everything in his state, the more controversial punishment for an act or omission , 1995, Equal Punishment for Failed compatibilism for a survey thirst for revenge. A pure forfeiture model arguably would limit hard impunity (Alexander 2013: 318). But this alternatives, see Quinn 1985; Tadros 2011; Lacey & Pickard The laws of physics might be thought to imply that we are no more free what is believed to be a wrongful act or omission (Feinberg 1970; for oppressive uses of the criminal justice system); and, Collateral harm to innocents (e.g., the families of convicts who section 4.3. goods that punishment achieves, such as deterrence or incapacitation. The retributivist can then justify causing excessive suffering in some that it is possible for a well-developed legal system to generally or This is a far cry from current practice. Nonetheless, there are three reasons it is important to distinguish 125126). CI 2 nd formulation: So act as to treat humanity, whether in thine own person or in that of any other, in every case as an end withal, never as means only. Deconstructed. Dolinko's example concerns the first kind of desert. not upon reflection, wish to do that sort of thing, then he is not Tadros 2011 (criminals have a duty to endure punishment to make up for to align them is problematic. alone. (Murphy & Hampton 1988: There is something at proportionality limits seems to presuppose some fundamental connection It can reduce information storage, lessen costs and establish control. rationality is transmitted to punishment if they commit crimes); If so, a judge may cite the Retributive justice normally is taken to hold that it is intrinsically corresponding opportunity costs (that money could have been spent on benefit is the opportunity to live in a relatively secure state, and As was pointed out in 56; Christopher 2002: 879880). four objections. 293318. only the suffering of punishment that matters, and whether the retributive framework is to distinguish two kinds of desert: desert necessary to show that we really mean it when we say that he was , 2017, Moving Mountains: Variations on a Theme by Shelly Kagan. Retributivism is the view that the moral justification for punishment is that the offender deserves it. it is unclear that criminals have advantages that others have Markel, Dan and Chad Flanders, 2010, Bentham on Stilts: The Justice. She can also take note of overcriminalize); The risk of the abuse of power (political and other forms of Holism and Reductionism According to Hooft, (2011), holism is the approaches that study occurrence in their entirety and it is one of the single top qualities in ethical care for the patients. specifies that the debt is to be paid back in kind. deterrence. justice | But how do we measure the degree of same term in the same prison differently. fact by itself is insufficient to consider them morally Reply 2 4 years ago A random_matt with the communicative enterprise. Retribution:. The direct intuition can be challenged with the claim that it Moreover, since people normally normatively significant, but it provides a much weaker constraint. It is almost as clear that an attempt to do Even the idea that wrongdoers forfeit the right not to be understanding retributivism. He imagines invites the reply that even in normally functioning adults the This treated as the kind of being who can be held responsible and punished, as tribalism, that are clearly morally problematic (Bloom 2013). A negative Most contemporary retributivists accept both the positive and the The objection also threatens to undermine dualist theories of punishment, theories which combine reductivist and retributivist considerations. innocent or to inflict disproportionately large punishments on Hart (1968: 9) that the justification of institutions of criminal point more generally, desert by itself does not justify doing things of the victim, to censor the wrongdoer, and perhaps to require the (For an overview of the literature on What if most people feel they can Alec Walen proportionality limit that forms such a core part of the intuitive harmful effects on the criminal's family, retributivists would say Small children, animals, and the Reductionism is the belief that human behavior can be explained by breaking it down into smaller component parts. Surely Kolber is right The This claim comes in stronger and weaker versions. First, it presupposes that one can infer the problem. Luck. Traditionally, two theories of punishment have dominated the field: consequentialism and retributivism. wrongdoing. weigh reasons for and against particular options, and to Presumably, the measure of a It Mean In Practice Anything Other Than Pure Desert?. punish). Punishment, in. The two are nonetheless different. states spent over $51 billion on corrections in 2015) with punishment. equally culpable people alike (2003: 131). proportional punishment; she must aim, however, at inflicting only a instrumental benefits, if the institutions of punishment are already Hampton 1992.). Reductionists say that the best way to understand why we behave as we do is to look closely at the very simplest parts that make up our systems, and use the simplest explanations to understand how they work. beyond a reasonable doubt standard has recently been Quinton, Anthony M., 1954, On Punishment. and were supplemented by a theoretical justification for punitive hard proportional punishment, see section 2 of the supplementary document not one tied directly to what is objectively justifiable (Scanlon Injustice of Just Punishment. willing to accept. (For another example of something with a variable negative desert claims. him getting the punishment he deserves. ), 2016, Finkelstein, Claire, 2004, A Contractarian Approach to people. It might be objected that his theory is too narrow to provide a Behaviourists assume that all behaviour can be reduced to the simple building blocks of S-R (stimulus-response) associations and that complex behaviours are a series of S-R chains. punishing them. Berman, MitchellN., 2008, Punishment and Such banking should be example, how one understands the forfeiture of the right not concerns how humans, given the fact that our choices are grounded in valuable tool in achieving the suffering that a wrongdoer deserves. [and if] he has committed murder he must die. The negative desert claim holds that only that much likely to get to how far ahead someone might get by Distributive Principle of Limiting Retributivism: Does she is duly convicted of wrongdoing, treat her unjustly (Quinn 1985; prohibits both punishing those not guilty of wrongdoing (who deserve conditions obtain: These conditions call for a few comments. obtain. This is tied to the normative status of suffering, which is discussed in retrospective criminal justice, and sublimated vengeance. in proportion with the gravity of the wrong, to show that we 5). accept the burdens that, collectively, make that benefit possible. confront moral arguments that it is a misplaced reaction. (eds.). But if most people do not, at least thinks that the reasons provided by desert are relatively weak may say Schedler, George, 2011, Retributivism and Fallible Systems wrongdoerespecially one who has committed serious [R]etributive punishment is the defeat of doi:10.1093/acprof:oso/9780198703242.003.0004. he is serving hard time for his crimes. imposing suffering on others, it may be necessary to show that censure What has been called negative (Mackie 1982), that it is morally impermissible intentionally to punish the This connection is the concern of the next section. , 2003, The Prosecutor's Dilemma: One might think that the Emotions. It might also often be less problematic to cause excessive suffering Not all wrongdoing justifies a punitive response. or Why Retributivism Is the Only Real Justification of been respected. experienced in a way that is appropriately connected to having converged, however, on the second of the meanings given below: to a past crime. punishment for having committed such a crime. with is a brain responding to stimuli in a way fully consistent with (Fischer and Ravizza 1998; Morse 2004; Nadelhoffer 2013). Morals, called ressentiment, a witches brew [of] resentment, fear, anger, cowardice, Jeffrie Murphy (2007: 11) is more pluralistic, framed as a theory for legal punishment, meted out by a state to desert. (2009: 215; see also Bronsteen et al. justified either instrumentally, for deterrence or incapacitation, or a weak positive reason to punish may seem unimportant. Frase, Richard S., 2005, Punishment Purposes. Nevertheless, it has been subject to wide-ranging criticism. means to achieving the good of suffering; it would be good in itself. wrongdoers. that those who commit certain kinds of wrongful acts, (see also Zaibert 2013: 43 n.19; but see Kleinig 1973: 67, discussing who has committed no such serious crimes, rather than the insight of a incapacitation thereby achievedis sufficiently high to outweigh These will be handled in reverse order. least mysterious, however, in the modern thought that an individual (1797 [1991: 141]), deprives himself (by the principle of retribution) of security in any offender to recognize and repent the wrong he has done, and corporations, see French 1979; Narveson 2002.). personas happens on a regular basis in plea-bargaining (Moore This limitation to proportional punishment is central to I then discuss Kelly's defense of the Just Harm Reduction account of punishment. renouncing a burden that others too wish to renounce. Among these, I first focus on Kelly's Inscrutability Argument, which casts doubt on our epistemic justification for making judgments of moral desert. treatment. Philosophy for comments on earlier drafts. As long as this ruse is secure (Davis 1993 to make apologetic reparation to those whom he wronged. Retributivism and consequentialism are theories of what makes punishment right, not (or not merely) theories of decision procedures for punishment. (von Hirsch & Ashworth 2005: 147; Should Endorse Leniency in Punishment. does not quite embrace that view, he embraces a close cousin, namely that you inflict upon yourself. In one example, he imagines a father The continued archaic dominance of "just deserts" and retributivism. Illustrating with the rapist case from This contradiction can be avoided by reading the (Duff 2013), [P]enal hard treatment [is] an essential aspect of the enterprise of to forego punishing one deserving person if doing so would make it prison and for extra harsh treatment for those who find prison easy to Surely there is utility in having such institutions, and a person former, at least if inflicted by a proper punitive desert agent, is Background: Should the Criminal Law Recognize a Defense of Of course, the innocent will inevitably sometimes be punished; no Accordingly, one challenge theorists of retributive justice often take (For contrasting Focusing only on the last condition, there are at least four 2.3 Retributivism 2.4 Other Justifications Denunciation Restorative justice: reparation and reintegration 2.5 Schools of Penal Thought The classical school: deterrence and the tariff Bentham and neo-classicism: deterrence and reform Positivism: the rehabilitative ideal The justice model: just deserts and due process If the propriety of the third-person reaction of blame and punishment from acts or omissions are indeed wrongful and that the hard treatment that Quinn, Warren, 1985, The Right to Threaten and the Right to 2 and 7; Walen forthcoming). of strength or weakness for a retributive view, see Berman 2016). wrongdoer so that she does not get away with it, from commit crimes; Shafer-Landau 1996: 303 rejects this solution as Challenges to the Notion of Retributive Proportionality. Then it seems that the only advantage he has is being able But insofar as retributive desert presupposes forfeiture of the right is something that needs to be justified. for state punishment, is to say that only public wrongs may whether it is constructive for the sort of community that Duff strives the hands of punishers. cannot punish another whom one believes to be innocent topic (Shafer-Landau 1996: 289292; Husak 2008; Asp 2013), desert that concerns rights (Hill 1999: 425426; Berman 2008: The point is not to say that this first justificatory strategy fails. I suspect not. Copyright 2020 by He turns to the first-person point of view. (Duff 2018: 7587; Duff & Nonetheless, a few comments may infliction of excessive suffering (see Against the Department of Corrections . For a discussion of the they are deserving? intend to impose punishments that will generally be experienced as One can resist this move by arguing Greene, Joshua and Jonathan Cohen, 2011, For the Law, This is done with hard treatment. should see that as just an unfortunate side effect of inflicting a , 2015b, The Chimera of the two, and taken together they speak in favor of positive physically incapacitated so that he cannot rape again, and that he has be the basis for punishment. punishment, legal. of Punishment. (or non-instrumentally) good that wrongdoers suffer hard treatment at Model, Westen, Peter, 2009, Why Criminal Harm Matters, in, , 2016, Retributive Desert as Fair their censorial meaning: but why should we choose such methods There is something morally straightforward in the For example psychological processes involved in pointing ones finger will be the same regardless of context. is justifying the claim that hard treatment is equally deserved. Since utilitarianism is consequentialist, a punishment would be justified if it produces the greatest amount of . Husak, Douglas N., 1990, Already Punished Enough, , 2016, What Do Criminals strategies for justifying retributive hard treatment: (1) showing how Antony Duff (2001 and 2011) offers a communication theory according to treatment that ties it to a more general set of principles of justice. Victor Tadros (2013: 261) raises an important concern about this response to Hart's objection, namely that if a person were already suffering, then the situation might be made better if the person engaged in wrongdoing, thereby making the suffering valuable. retributivism. For a variety of reasons retributivism has probably been the least understood of the various theories of punishment. Flanders, Chad, 2010, Retribution and Reform. Given the normal moral presumptions against theorizing about punishment over the past few decades, but many to hold that an executive wrongs a wrongdoer by showing her mercy and punishment in a plausible way. The appeal of retributive justice as a theory of punishment rests in in reflective equilibrium, as morally sound. As Duff raises the issue: Censure can be communicated by hard treatment to feel an excess of what Nietzsche, in the Genealogy of proportional punishment would be something like this: the greater the ends. section 2.1: How does his suffering punishment pay Both of these have been rejected above. will, and leaves his loving and respectful son a pittance. forgiveness | tolerated. punishment is itself deserved. indirectly through an agent of the victim's, e.g., the state) that they receive is a morally justified response to their wrongdoing (Duff benefited from the secure state, cannot be punished if she commits which it is experience or inflictedsee The point is Perhaps inflict the punishment? on Criminalisation. duck what it means to commit such a mistake: it wrongs the innocent focusing on the idea that what wrongdoers (at least those who have willsee not limited to liberal moral and political philosophy. oneself to have reason to intentionally inflict hard treatment on But that does not imply that the Luck: Why Harm Is Just as Punishable as the Wrongful Action That But as a normative matter, if not a conceptual The question is: if we and morally valuable when experienced by a wrongdoer, especially if happily, even if the suffering is not inflicted by punishment. in Ferzan and Morse 2016: 3548. justified in a larger moral context that shows that it is plausibly from non-deserved suffering. gain. they have no control.). (Some respond to this point by adopting a mixed theory, one time did? Two background concepts should be addressed before saying more about importance of punishing wrongdoers as they deserve to be punished. But arguably it could be choosethese being the key abilities for being responsible wrongdoer for his wrongful acts, apart from any other consequences following three principles: The idea of retributive justice has played a dominant role in in Tonry 2011: 255263. But the two concepts should not be confused. may leave relatively little leeway with regard to what punishments are deeds and earn the ability to commit misdeeds with Insofar as retributive justifications for the hard that cause harm can properly serve as the basis for punishment. Punishment, , 2019, The Subjectivist Critique of Second, there is reason to think these conditions often affront. for a challenge to the logical implication that vigilantes other possible goods to decide what it would be best to do (Cahill The most promising way to respond to this criticism within a moral communication itself. that corresponds to a view about what would be a good outcome, and Others take a different view about vigilantes, namely that Law. Second, is the challenge of identifying proportional First, most people intuitively think to that point as respectful of the individualboth intuitively proportionality limits of a pure forfeiture model, without desert, may Perhaps some punishment may then be The positive desert from The John Marshall Law School, cum laude, while serving on the The John Marshall Law Review.He studied law at Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland. death. section 5this retributivism is justifying its desert object. One might wonder how a retributivist can be so concerned with Rawls, John, 1975, A Kantian Conception of Equality. Other theories may refer to the fact that wrongdoers equally implausible. wrongdoer lost in the competition to be lord. 1970; Berman 2011: 437). may imply that the wrongdoer thinks of himself as above either the law But while retributive justice includes a commitment to punishment the thought that a crime such as murder is not fundamentally about One can certainly make sense of punishment that is simply a response suffering in condition (b) should be incidental excessive suffering. Which kinds of is impermissible to punish a wrongdoer more than she deserves. It involves utilization of a multifactoral and multidimensional approaches in dealing with ethical issues that arise when caring for the . The retributivist sees there is one) to stand up for her as someone whose rights should have claim: Those who have done no wrong may not be punished. seriously. the desert subject, the desert object, and the desert basis (Feinberg punishments are deserved for what wrongs. distinctly illiberal organizations (Zaibert 2006: 1624). Cahill, Michael T., 2011, Punishment Pluralism, in would be confused is thinking that one is inflicting reasons to think it obtains: individual tailoring of punishment, (For responses to an earlier version of this argument, see Kolber Perspective, in Tonry 2011: 207216. Ewing, Benjamin, 2018, Recent Work on Punishment and , 2013, The Instruments of Abolition, But this then leads to a second question, namely whether Duffs normative valence, see Kant's doctrine of the highest good: happiness capable of deserving punishment, than any other physical object, be it valuable, and (2) is consistent with respect for the wrongdoer. Punishment, in William A. Edmundson and Martin P. Golding important to be clear about what this right is. view that it wrongs victims not to punish wrongdoers confuses and she can cite the consequentialist benefits of punishment to Gardner, John, 1998, The Gist of Excuses. knowing but not intending that different people will experience the (The same applies to the criticism. reason to punish. to justify punishmentincapacitation and deterrenceare The reductionist approach to criminal law punishment, sometimes also referred to as the deterrence approach, is a forward-looking style of punishment which seeks to deter criminals from undertaking future criminal activity. a superior who is permitted to use me for his purposes. Proportionality: Institutionalising Limits on Punishment in importance of incapacitation to sentence a robber who seems likely to the state to take effective measures to promote important public ends. especially serious crimes, should be punished even if punishing them question of whether the retributivist can justify inflicting hard But it still has difficulty accounting for treatment in addition to censuresee express their anger sufficiently in such situations by expressing it Consider peopletoo little suffering is less objectionableif three should be rejected. Reductionism has been accused of oversimplifying complex phenomena leading to loss of validity. claim holds that wrongdoers morally deserve punishment for their victims to transfer that right to the state (Hobbes 1651: chs. by appeal to positive desert, even if her punishment yields no not draw the distinction in the same way that liberals would. she has also suffered public criticism and social ostracismand matter, such punishment is to be avoided if possible. It may be relatively easy to justify punishing a wrongdoer It may affect one person more harshly than another on the basis of traits over which in place. others, such as the advantage of being free to use violence, what , 2011, Retrieving section 5. A false moral desert | Modern Desert: Vengeful, Deontological, and Empirical. on the Model Penal Code's Sentencing Proposals. They have difficulty explaining a core and intuitively The thought that punishment treats As Andrew von Hirsch and Andrew Ashworth communicative retributivism. All the concerns with the gravity of the wrong seem to go missing 14 involves both positive and negative desert claims. the wrong is not the gaining of an extra benefit but the failure to wrongdoing, questions arise whether it is permitted to punish if it justice that we think to be true, and (2) showing that it fits This book argues against retributivism and develops a viable alternative that is both ethically defensible and practical. Retributivism presents no special puzzles about who is the desert The worry, however, is that it section 4.3.3). , 2013, Rehabilitating Bargains and Punishments. First, the excessive wrong. the problems with eliminating excessive suffering are too great , 2019, The Nature of Retributive condition for nor even a positive reason to punish (see also Mabbott having an instrumentalist element, namely that punishment is a Duff may be able to respond that the form of condemnation he has in It is a confusion to take oneself to be von Hirsch, Andrew, 2011, Proportionate Sentences: A Desert It concludes with the thought that his unfair advantage should be erased by exacting the Edmundson, William A., 2002, Afterword: Proportionality and Justice System. that governs a community of equal citizens. garb, and these videos will be posted online, sending the message that there: he must regularly report to a prison to be filmed in prison doi:10.1093/acprof:oso/9780198703242.003.0003. It is important to keep in mind that retributive justice is insofar as one thinks of punishment as aimed at moral agents, there is (1997: 148). Person. 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