Snicker. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. Get real. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. The CW380 sucks. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). Also people need to fire them at the range. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. Wrong about sccy. Best 380 Ive ever had. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Super gun, works every time. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ LMFAO!!!! Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Bersa Thunder 5. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. Thank-you. Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. Because they werent reliable? I have 2 of them. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. OMG! Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. I shoot pocket guns all the time. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. The Pico is top shelf. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. And just recently bought my Third Pico. It is not made for quick magazine changes. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. SRP: $269. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . Just like Fords. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . OMG! Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. Do you perhaps have a very early one? WebThe .380 Auto (ACP) Pistol is most often used for self-defense, and is a particularly good choice for concealed carry thanks to its small size. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. How is this journalisim? capacity. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. Really disappointed in how this was presented. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. CM40 is my summe4 carry. Guess what? Funny. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. For College Campuses! After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? I have received grief for it as well. Take down the Pico. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Yes it did. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. Kahr CW 380. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. I totally agree. All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. AMEN . Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). the fact you just dont like it? When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. IT is NOT stiff at all. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? We saw your review and write up. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. He says the trigger is horrible? He says it is a blunder. I dont see it. It therefore must perform when called upon. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. I own a hp380. 400 hundred rounds of various FMJ and hollow points without a single failure. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. . Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Hey, look Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. Did they succeed? Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. As in best gun LOL. I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. The sccy is a great budget pistol. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. Oh, it fits my hand great too. You get two shots, a single-action-only I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. And surely have not shot one or very little. I still have the same problem. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. I certainly wouldnt be happy. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Are you kidding me? By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. The gun works. The LCP isnt that bad. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. Any kind of ammo. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. This is the J-Frame for the masses. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. I have a SCCY too. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. Uh no. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. A bunch. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Seriously?). If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. None. Ruger LCP II 3. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. Remarkable build quality. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. lol Damon really? And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. 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